Headbanger Thrasher Talks Monday Night Wars, Getting “Ribbed” By Owen & Bulldog, More

Former WWE superstar Trasher of the Headbangers joined Kayfabe Wrestling Radio and spoke about the formation of the Headbangers, what it was like being a part of the Monday night wars, getting “ribbed” by Owen Hart & Davey Boy Smith & more. Here are some highlights of what he said about:

How The Headbangers Came About “We actually got together, I was the head trainer for the world famous Monster Factory Wrestling School in New Jersey; which was owned by ‘Prett Boy’ Larry Sharp, and I was the head trainer there. I trained Chaz (Headbanger Mosh), D-Lo Brown, the Big Show among others, and me and Chaz just really hit it off and we jumped in the car and headed out on the road. We did our round in Memphis, we did our round for Smokey Mountain Wrestling where we actually became the Headbangers; Jim Cornette gave us the name ‘The Headbangers’ and when Smokey Mountain was closing, that when Cornette was trying to get all of his guys from Smokey Mountain into WWE/WWF. At that time, they were doing the part-time contracts and we were hired, just for TV, on a part-time basis. So we came into WWF as the Headbangers; that wasn’t a Vince McMahon made gimmick or anything else, and frankly, it’s not really a gimmick. That’s how we are, we’ve always had the tattoos, the piercings and everything else; I just don’t walk around my house in a skirt.”

How Much of the Headbangers Material Was Scripted: “Probably about 90% of it was ‘Hey guys, go out there and be yourself’. So, I’d have to say at that time, in that era and stuff, it was about characters and it was about being how you are and stuff like that; not everyone tried to go out there and be Stone Cold Steve Austin. We had colorful characters that people could get emotionally attached to and plainly I think that’s what’s missing from Today’s wrestling.”

Would He & Mosh Liked To Have Had Social Media Back When They Were With WWE?: “It’s funny because we’ve talked about this; I like it now because I love, and everyone knows that, on Twitter and stuff like that, if you follow me, then I’m going to follow you; If you ask me a question, I’m going to answer you. Sometimes, it might take me a little bit, I’m actually going to get to it sooner or later. But it’s funny because me and Chaz have always talked about it; we said if he’d had the access of Facebook and Twitter and all of that stuff, back then as we do now, yeah, I don’t know how many people would still be free. I think there would be some who would be incarcerated right now, I think. Because, you end up having to find ways to, when you’re out on the road, to find ways to entertain yourself and a lot of times, they might not be lawful. So, I’m actually glad we didn’t have it back then, because I’m free today.

The Monday Night Wars: “It was a really good atmosphere. You had guys competing against the other company at that same timeslot; so if you were the first match on RAW, you wanted to outdo the first match on Nitro. It was a head-to-head, really and not too far-fetched from being a real competition. I mean, you wanted to have your ratings be better for that segment than Nitro’s. So, it was a lot of fun back then because on Tuesday, you’d run up there and see what the ratings were and everything else and be like ‘Oh, man. We almost had them.’ or ‘Oh, man. We got them this week!’ It was a lot of fun. Now, I always tell people ‘Why didn’t you like WWF back then, because you didn’t like WCW? Why do you like WWE now?’; because there’s nothing else to watch. Mark my words, TNA is up-and-coming and I can see them, in the next two years, rivaling WWE for ratings. I absolutely love what TNA is doing now, more so that what WWE is doing.”

Being ‘Ribbed’ by Owen Hart and Davey Boy Smith: “It was funny, because Owen used to do funny, silly stuff where the rib would last two days. I can remember him being in the locker room and taking someone’s wrestling bag and taking a padlock and padlocking it to a chair, just a steel chair. Or he would take two guys bags; he did that to me and Chaz, he took a padlock and locked our two bags together and we were just like; we walk in and catch the end of it. We’re like ‘Oh, hey. What are you doing?’ and he’s like ‘Oh, your bags are locked together. I don’t know who did that; I just came over and saw it.’ We knew who did it, because it was just Owen. Just to see what would happen tomorrow, is what he would do. Me and Chaz, we lived in the same hotel room, so the bags went together. We played along with it and lasted until Tuesday when we came to do TV and when we got there, we’d break the lock open.

“It was harmless stuff but it was just so funny and it happened so often. One time, when Mark Henry first started wrestling, he broke his ankle or his leg. So, we’re in the arena and Davey takes his crutches because he was sitting down. So he steals the crutches without Mark Henry even knowing and then Owen comes up to Mark and say ‘Hey, Vince wants you and he’s on the other side of the arena.’ So, Mark is looking around and going ‘Oh my god’ and can’t find his crutches. So, Mark Henry gets up and he starts hopping, on one leg, all the way across the arena and no Vince McMahon. It was things like that and once you know it was a joke, it was so funny.”

Brad Davis

Brad Davis is the editor of SEScoops.com and MMANews.com. He's been hooked on pro wrestling since 1989 and has attended 8 WrestleManias

  • http://JimmyCruz.com/ JimmyCruz.com

    R.I.P. Owen

  • Steve

    “Mark my words, TNA is up-and-coming and I can see them, in the next two
    years, rivaling WWE for ratings. I absolutely love what TNA is doing
    now, more so that what WWE is doing.”

    I am a TNA fan, but i really can not see it. TNA is playing safe money wise (not like WCW), building up company slowly. They have done a lot in a decade, but they still have a huge gap to fill if they want to get close to WWE. First thing that TNA must do, is get a lot more known in USA. Taking Impact on the road is a good step that way.

    • Pozessed

      I wouldn’t stay TNA could rival WWE in 2 years.. Maybe 4 or 5 I think.. I agree with what he said about Impact being the better show though for last year at least.

  • No1LitaFan

    I still love hearing stories about Owen, I’ve yet to hear anyone, ever have a negative thing to say about him.

    • Progress_Now

      they don’t say a single negative thing about him because they don’t wanna be globally shunned. not very tasteful talking trash about a dead guy, unless you knew him really well, which none of us do. however……noone, dead or alive, is perfect.

      I’m sure they got negative stuff to say, they just keep it to themselves or at least away from the media.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Clare-McFadden/505577415 Clare McFadden

        no, no one ever badmouths Owen because he was legitimately a nice guy!

        • Progress_Now

          oh yah? you ever met him? did you live with him so you can experience every bit of him all those years? as I said, sweetcakes, noone’s perfect

          • olbaiD4283

            Bret Hart states I forget where I think it was his recent documentry WWE did where he says he feels bad for Austin for what Owen did to him and OWEN NEVER EVEN APOLOGIZED now he had all that time to make it right with Austin till his death. Why he never said anything to Austin Idk. And I didn’t mean to say anything bad about his death I was just pointing the irony of how he almost ENDED/KILLED Austin and Severen in a period of 1 year and then look what happened to him. This is a reply to everyone….Oh but Bret ended up apologizing on his brothers behalf though. I think Owen did talk to Bret about it he would have to it’s his brother and he about killed someone you’d have to get something like that off your chest.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Clare-McFadden/505577415 Clare McFadden

            do not patronise me! do not call me sweetcakes I was merely telling you what i have read about Owen all right? yeesh!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rick-Yuhnke/100002079499044 Rick Yuhnke

    We lost a great one in Owen. I used to have the tape of the ppv and raw that followed his death, but I just dried when I watched it. I just got rid of it. Owen would have been a multi time WWE champ. RIP Owen/Blue Blazer :(

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Clare-McFadden/505577415 Clare McFadden

      I have the DVD but I don’t watch it. I think i have watched it twice maybe three times since i bought it. Owen was my favourite wrestler when i was a kid, I know it’s sad that i have the PPV but I didn’t have sky tv back then so i didn’t see it live… I kind of wanted some way to preserve Owen’s memory since Martha is being a total witch about the Hall of Fame.

      • olbaiD4283

        When he died did he land on the inside of the ring on the inside turnbuckle or on the outside where his larynx I think snapped on the pole on the outside of the ring that connects to the turnbuckle. I have never seen his death and was wondering what took place to make it go the way it did or heard that the stunt harness was not the proper one and that was the main reason as to why the accident happened.

        • http://twitter.com/lovelyeyes88 Kelly Goodling

          Owen’s aorta was severed from his heart it was his cause of death.His wife said he died from a broken heart….he did.

          • olbaiD4283

            I’m sorry I just don’t comprehend?

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Clare-McFadden/505577415 Clare McFadden

            I suggest you read a book called Broken Harts: the life and death of Owen Hart by Martha Hart… I did not enjoy the book however, it did explain everything that happened to Owen on that night.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Clare-McFadden/505577415 Clare McFadden

          no he literally died of a broken heart.

      • Belfast Brawler

        I assume a bootleg dvd as i read the PPV was never officially released

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Clare-McFadden/505577415 Clare McFadden

          I found it on Ebay and it had been recorded from Sky Sports actually

  • olbaiD4283

    Lol to Mark Henry poor guy. You know Owens death is a little ironic if you think about HOW IT HAPPENED and him breaking Austin’s neck WHICH HE NEVER APOLOGIZED for and he broke Dan Severn’s neck. Now I’m not saying he deserved what happened but karma has a way of working itself out.

    • Progress_Now

      like I said below, it’s not very tasteful to say something like that about a dead guy, but if he wasn’t dead, people would be thumbing you up instead of down. unfortunately you’re right about the karma thing. we all reap what we sow eventually. noone is immune to karma.

  • odinthetroll

    Oh Myyyyyyyyyyyyy…………….Owen still stole the show even in 2013!!!!!!!!!! Hope he came back again and put more fun in this miserable PG universe