Sound Off 265: WWE Must Do Something With The Intercontinental And U.S. Titles Or Retire Them

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Solomonster opens with some thoughts from his latest Layfield Report column on retiring the Intercontinental and U.S. titles in WWE, then leads with TNA thoughts this week:

-TNA Lockdown thoughts, Bully Ray wins his first singles World title and turns on the Hogans (5:00)
-Can the addition of Bully save Aces and Eights? What he brings to the table that they’ve been lacking (13:45)
-Thoughts on adding a female presence to Aces and Eights in the form of Ivelisse (16:00)
-Update on contract status of Rob Van Dam, could a WWE return be in his future? (25:40)
-Why does a three-hour Raw need an overrun? Suggesting a move to 8-10pm and why it makes sense (27:00)
-Looking at Paul Bearer’s death being incorporated into the Undertaker/CM Punk storyline (33:30)
-A bizarre Highlight Reel segment from Raw and why wrestlers were so upset with Michael Cole (49:30)
-Jimmy Uso arrested for his second DUI, and the dangerous precedent WWE has now set (58:00)
-Can Bill Goldberg’s WWE run be considered a flop? And could we see a match with Ryback? (1:15:30)
-If not WrestleMania 17, what would have been a good time to turn Steve Austin heel? (1:23:45)

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  • incaseoffireusestairs

    I asked about Bully! Thanks for your response. I was never familiar with the ECW Dudleyz. I didn’t know about them/him drawing heat back then. I really want to see what he does going forward. I liked him on Thursday, but thought the “fire us?!” rant went for too long. Especially towards the end of the show. But maybe due to commercials, since I think he ranted, went to commercials, and THEN Hogan came out AFTER the commercials.

    -Josue (Ho-Sue-Eh) LOL!

  • incaseoffireusestairs

    I asked about Bully! Thanks for your response. I was never familiar with the ECW Dudleyz. I didn’t know about them/him drawing heat back then. I really want to see what he does going forward. I liked him on Thursday, but thought the “fire us?!” rant went for too long. Especially towards the end of the show. But maybe due to commercials, since I think he ranted, went to commercials, and THEN Hogan came out AFTER the commercials.

    -Josue (Ho-Sue-Eh) LOL!

  • incaseoffireusestairs

    I asked about Bully! Thanks for your response. I was never familiar with the ECW Dudleyz. I didn’t know about them/him drawing heat back then. I really want to see what he does going forward. I liked him on Thursday, but thought the “fire us?!” rant went for too long. Especially towards the end of the show. But maybe due to commercials, since I think he ranted, went to commercials, and THEN Hogan came out AFTER the commercials.

    -Josue (Ho-Sue-Eh) LOL!

  • incaseoffireusestairs

    I asked about Bully! Thanks for your response. I was never familiar with the ECW Dudleyz. I didn’t know about them/him drawing heat back then. I really want to see what he does going forward. I liked him on Thursday, but thought the “fire us?!” rant went for too long. Especially towards the end of the show. But maybe due to commercials, since I think he ranted, went to commercials, and THEN Hogan came out AFTER the commercials.

    -Josue (Ho-Sue-Eh) LOL!

  • TTT

    I hate how when a contract expires you say Could they end up in WWE? It’s getting old. It’s obvious that it’s all a work. Velvet Sky, D-Von, Matt Morgan, Bobby Roode and now Rob Van Dam.

    • incaseoffireusestairs

      I really believe DVon’s was legit. As Velvet’s. I think Velvet thought she was worth more, and they finally gave in. I think it’s the same for others that have gone, and not returned like Angelia, it is legit, but if she cameback because she agreed to a new contract some people would think she was coming back all the long. Morgan’s was obliviously a work, or got turned into a work FAST. Roode was just a little problem they had to work out, they never made a big deal out of it, the IWC did. And I think RVD just wants either more money, winning clauses, less work dates, for the money TNA thinks he’s worth. And he wants TNA to feel they could lose him. Again, WE are ALL ex-peculating here. We don’t know what’s what.

  • Rock Solid

    Here’s the deal with the WHC/WWE title and the midcard title issue: Even though the WWE and WHC are both World titles in reality and on paper, the WHC is taking the place of the IC title. Now, I’m not saying that the WHC belt is really the “IC title” , but it is taking the place of what the IC title is supposed to be, which is why the real IC title is basically worthless. And it has been that way in my view since the WHC belt has been brought in. Now instead of having three two separate singles titles to care about, one being the WWE world title, and the IC (midcard) title. There are two separate singles titles that just happen to be World titles thus taking away the importance of the midcard titles all together! That’s the deal. BUT…. there have been some interesting feuds and matches that have come out of IC/US title defenses since the WHC debut so it hasn’t been a total loss! So should they do away with the IC/US titles… I say unify both IC/US belts, and give it a new name. It might not give it more importance, but at least it will be less belts around that most don’t care about anyway. And it would still keep the midcard busy so there should always be one midcard belt.

    • Mr. Honesty

      Even though the WHC is technically a world championship, its given to “second class citizens”. You’d never see Mark Henry, Christian, or Daniel Bryan holding the WWE Title. They give the WHC to guys that deserve a world title but they dont view as “top guys”

  • Nick

    Midcard titles are useless, it’s horribly sad because I can remember when the IC title feuds were more interesting than the main title !!!

  • http://twitter.com/ToricoUK Jamie Hawker

    Old guys like Vince and Hogan are fine in street fights, no wrestling needed, just weapon it out.

  • http://twitter.com/NovaWWE Not a cop

    They should retire the WHC, US title and Divas title.
    Bring back the Women’s Title, and retire the Unified Tag Titles.
    And Use a concept like this.

    WWE title – Main Event Guys
    IC- Mid Carders
    Tag Title – For Tag Teams.
    Womens, Kinda more dignified title rather than the worthless ugly Diva title.

  • Buck

    Here is the issue with the US/IC titles. There is no prestige with them. Not to mention that the title holder LOSES on television, making the championship irrelevant. You have top main event guys wrestling against the US/IC title holders in worthless matches. There are no story lines for either of these belts. Thats where a guy like the Miz can stand out. He can take the IC belt off of Wade Barrett, and then Barrett can concentrate on becoming a world champion. To make the titles mean more, Unify the WWE and Heavyweight belt. I know they did this way back when because WCW was taken over and Smackdown needed a champion. Now that wrestlers duke it out on both shows, you don’t have to have a champion for both shows. Contracts for these guys don’t help either. If the WWE Champ wrestles on Mondays, but he doesn’t do anything on Smackdowns, well that can be changed. The champ should show up at both shows. Soon as Rock drops the title, which I’m sure he will to Cena (as bogus as that has to be), atleast Cena can be on both shows. Another issue is having these top guys wrestling only on certain dates. When I was younger, there never use to be “well, I’m only gonna show up for 5 tv tapings a select few ppvs to get paid”. that didn’t happen. Times have changed, and the veterans do what they want. Give the top belts to the younger guys that show up every night. I’m honestly looking forward to more NXT stars making names for themselves. A guy like El Generico can put himself on the map with his Brainbusters and unique style. A guy like holding an IC title can get a storyline together and make the belt worth something. Until the WWE changes their perspective (which won’t happen til Vince is probably retired or dead), then its gonna be the same top performers with the midcarders still venting. Remember when R-Truth was a heel and he had the feud with Cena, I honestly thought that change was coming and Truth was gonna beat him. A different face with the belt and a strong character (before the Little Jimmy crap). Characters get made up, then pushed to the side so Cena, Punk, Sheamus, and Orton can share the spotlight. get it together WWE

  • sdelfin

    Thanks for calling them out on their booking of the US and IC titles. This is one of the things that bothers me the most about the product and why I read the reports before I decide to watch any portions of the shows. WWE really went into overdrive jobbing out their IC and US champs when they put the US title on Santino last year. He lost to Del Rio three times on Raw, and another two times to Cesaro before he lost the belt. On the IC side, Cody(2nd run), Christian, the Miz, and Kofi all had terrible runs with the belt as well.